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HOW TO SPOT REAL ESTATE SCAMS IN THE PHILIPPINES / Shady Listings and Annoying Practices

πŸ“… 2021-07-30⏱ 17:32
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Pea breaks down the chaotic, unregulated Philippine rental market with specific scams, bait-and-switch tactics, and discriminatory pricing practices that foreigners will encounter when apartment hunting. She pairs each problem with concrete protective advice, drawing on her own experiences trying to rent and the frustrating exchanges she's had with local agents.

What's Covered ​

  • Don't try to find a place before you arrive

    • Whatever listing you find online will have something wrong with it by the time you land
    • Better approach: fly in, stay at an Airbnb, and start looking in person for longer-term rentals
    • Having a local to help is ideal, but even solo you'll manage β€” "I'm sure that'll change really quickly if you wanted to"
    • Even if you're used to owning property, rent first; the only thing foreigners can own is a condo, and buying is surprisingly more expensive than in many developed countries despite rent being cheap
  • Facebook is the primary real estate platform

    • There are a few websites (Dot Property, Lamudi), but most people find rentals on Facebook β€” it's "the de facto real estate broker of the Philippines"
    • No MLS system, no centralized database; people also find places through word of mouth, taxi drivers, and roadside signs
  • Scam #1: The "One Peso Mansion"

    • Listings routinely show fake prices (like one peso) to bait calls β€” you have to contact the agent to get the real price, and "good luck with that"
    • Pea shares an actual exchange: she asked a simple question about the monthly rental and sales price; instead of answering, the agent kept asking what her budget was so he could redirect her to other properties; after several days of back-and-forth, Pea held firm and the agent simply stopped responding β€” she never got a price
  • Scam #2: The price changes between listing and showing

    • A listing says 18,000 pesos but when you call it's suddenly 20,000 β€” maybe because the "owner made improvements"
    • Pea's personal experience: went to view an apartment listed at 15,000 pesos, arrived and was told the price was actually 19,000; when she showed the agent their own active listing, they said the online price was "just wrong" β€” no apology, no explanation; agent then asked if she'd like to go inside anyway; Pea left immediately
  • Scam #3: "Sorry, not available β€” but look what I have here"

    • Agents constantly show listings for places already rented, knowing full well the listing is dead
    • When asked why a dead listing from six months ago is still on Facebook, you get silence
    • The agent keeps it up specifically because it generates calls, which lets them redirect you to other properties β€” classic bait and switch, "standard practice here"
  • Scam #4: Too many cooks in the kitchen

    • The same property might appear in 3-5 different listings, each with different prices and slightly different photos
    • No exclusive agent system β€” multiple agents each add their own margin
    • The chain can be even longer: an owner tells his barber to find a renter, the barber tells someone else, that person finds the tenant, and "everyone down the line expects a cut" β€” bumping up the price
  • Scam #5: What's that smell? (Hidden neighborhood problems)

    • Properties can be in terrible locations β€” mansions literally share walls with shacks, there's no zoning, and listing photos carefully omit the neighbors
    • Pea's line: "I guarantee you they didn't post a photo of the pig farm that shares a common wall with the place they're trying to rent you β€” in which case it's a good thing that pictures don't convey smell"
  • Scam #6: "Peekaboo" photos

    • Listing photos are deliberately vague and terrible β€” could have been "taken in a dark closet somewhere in Mongolia"
    • Pea wants just five good photos (outside, kitchen, master bedroom, living room, bathroom) but agents refuse
    • The reason: agents use crappy photos so OTHER agents can't recognize the property and create competing listings β€” which leaves the renter completely in the dark
    • All Pea asks: five clear photos, and she's happy
  • Scam #7: Size inflation

    • A "tiny closet" might be counted as a bedroom, "Harry Potter's room under the stairs" described as a "luxurious master suite with its own ensuite hallway"
    • A closet with a bucket = bathroom; a hole in a wall = "revolutionary new means of room ventilation"
    • Living area is measured differently β€” anything with a covering counts, including walkways, garages, and patios; so a "200 square meter" listing could be a shoebox with creative measuring
  • Scam #8: Ethnicity-based pricing (the "skin tax")

    • When you call about a listing, the first question may be "what nationality are you?" β€” because different races pay different prices
    • Chinese and Koreans get quoted higher prices because they have a reputation for being "bad renters that destroy things"; Westerners usually get better deals for the reputation of taking care of property
    • Pea's experiment: called about the same listing twice β€” said "Korean" and was quoted 35,000 pesos/month (~$700 USD); called back the next day, said "Canadian," and got 32,000 pesos (~$640 USD) β€” a $60/month difference for the same unit
    • If your Filipino partner calls on your behalf, it's double discrimination: the agent assumes the Filipino can't afford the place and asks who the real renter is to determine the right price
    • Completely legal in the Philippines
  • Scam #9: Unlicensed agents

    • Your "real estate agent" might have just gotten off a shift at Jollibee β€” just a regular person with a motorbike who knows nothing more about the property than you do
    • You can ask if they're licensed, but "don't expect a straight answer β€” or any answer"
  • Pea's proactive advice for renters

    • Haggle: you probably don't haggle rent back home, but here you should β€” offer a few thousand pesos less than quoted; the worst they can say is no, and it adds up to ~500 pesos/year savings; better yet, have your Filipina do it β€” "we're used to it and might know how to play things a little better"
    • Test the internet yourself: bring a phone speed-test app and measure upload/download speeds on-site; don't trust the agent's claims
    • Don't trust agents or Filipino neighbors about noise and power: if you ask, you'll be told "everything's fine, the power never goes out, the neighborhood is as quiet as a library"; instead, ask expat neighbors, or drive by on a Friday night to check the actual noise level (people crank music loud enough to "literally rattle your dishes," plus barking dog packs)
    • Insist on a legal contract: make sure the person on the lease is the actual property owner whose name is on the deed β€” there are situations where you sign a lease with the owner's ex-husband and discover it's worthless
    • Film the signing and cash exchange: rents are paid in cash and there's no paper trail; video the landlord counting and acknowledging receipt of payment because otherwise there's nothing to prove you paid

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