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2022-03-04 ย |ย โฑ๏ธ 22:39 ย |ย ๐๏ธ 69.5K views ย |ย ๐ 5.1K likes ย |ย ๐ฌ 1.3K comments
Pea interviews her friend Cheesy โ yes, her real name, taken from a cheese bread brand her mom saw on a box โ a 30-year-old single Filipina with dating experience involving both local and foreign men. The conversation covers marriage expectations, online dating pitfalls, what happens when a Filipina dates foreigners and then tries to date local guys again, and why Cheesy insists on cohabitation before commitment.
Cheesy's background and name origin โ
- Her real name is Cheesy; her mom literally named her after a cheese spread brand she saw on a box
- She's 30, single, no kids, but has 10 dogs (8 pugs and 2 rescued street dog crossbreeds)
- Pea jokes that they're the "crazy cat lady" and "crazy dog lady" pair
Marriage expectations vs. reality โ
- Cheesy had a life plan: relationship by 20, married by 25, kids by 27 โ but she's 30 and still single
- She says she's not just looking for a soulmate but a "twin flame" โ something deeper and more exclusive
- She's firmly against divorce, so marriage for her is a one-time deal โ which makes her extra cautious
- Filipino extended families expect marriage and expect to be invited to the wedding; there's societal pressure to settle down
Cohabitation before marriage is non-negotiable for Cheesy โ
- She says living together is when you see the "real them" โ the farts, the snoring, the burps
- References something she read claiming people can only fake who they are for about three months
- Pea jokes she'd heard of the "three-year itch" but now it's a "three-month itch"
- Cheesy wants to see if her partner accepts "what you are and what you are not" before committing
Online marriage โ Cheesy attended one โ
- She attended an online wedding the previous month and was initially convinced it was a scam
- Her friend married a man she had never met in person
- Cheesy says she personally wouldn't do it because of trust issues from failed past relationships
- She needs to see the real person under the same roof before making that decision
Views on having kids โ
- She's not ready for kids right now โ wants to be financially stable first
- Emphasizes it's a joint decision: "it's not just me, it's not just him, it's the both of you"
- Plans to keep her 10 dogs regardless
- Pea jokes they'll both end up running a "Noah's Ark" animal rescue sanctuary
Would she leave the Philippines? โ
- She's been asked this repeatedly because she's dated two American men long-term
- She'd leave if her partner needed to be there for work, or if she had better career opportunities abroad
- But she has no problem staying in the Philippines if her partner wants to stay
- She prefers English-speaking countries since English is her strongest foreign language
- She studied Korean during a relationship with a Korean ex โ got fluent enough to skip K-drama subtitles, but lost it after the relationship ended
The language dynamics of dating โ
- Cheesy and Pea both find it easier to speak English than Tagalog in many everyday situations
- They discuss how Filipinos mix Visayan, Tagalog, and English constantly, sometimes forgetting which region they're in
- The "double translation" problem with non-English-speaking partners (he translates in his head, she translates in hers) creates a communication gap
- She dated Germans who were actually good at English, which worked well
How dating foreigners changes how local men see you โ
- After dating foreigners, Cheesy found that Filipino men felt intimidated by her
- Local guys assumed she'd have higher expectations or demand more financially
- She says it's not about being "better" โ it's that dating foreigners made her more open-minded, changed how she talks and carries herself
- Local men can see the difference and pull back
Why foreigners are attractive to Filipinas (from Cheesy's perspective) โ
- Foreigners are more open-minded and more understanding of Filipino culture
- Foreign men who intend to marry Filipinas often actively study the culture and appreciate it
- She's observed through working with Japanese and Korean wives of her bosses that Filipinas are distinctly more caring โ the type to make coffee for their husband before work
- She suggested this to her Japanese boss's wife, who didn't do those things
The Filipina "training" for being a housewife โ
- Both Cheesy and Pea describe being raised with the expectation of learning household skills for marriage
- Parents explicitly said "you have to know how to do that because when you get married, your husband's going to leave you if you don't"
- Pea calls it "traumatic" but acknowledges it had benefits โ they entered adulthood already knowing what married life would require
- "It's like marriage 101" baked into childhood, no manual needed
The gold digger stereotype vs. reality โ
- Cheesy acknowledges local guys sometimes accuse women who've dated foreigners of being after money
- She says what she actually wants is someone loving, caring, and hardworking โ matching her own work ethic
- Pea adds the joke: "We don't dig gold anymore โ we dig bitcoins now"
The "Indecent Proposal" scenario โ
- Pea poses the classic hypothetical: a man offers a million dollars for one night
- Cheesy says she discussed this with her ex and they jokingly agreed she should do it if the man was old and "about to die" โ then they'd enjoy the money together afterward
- But she says she really wouldn't sell her body
The 7-year relationship with a man from California โ
- Her longest relationship was 7 years with an American from California
- She was planning to file for a fiancรฉe visa but delayed because she was financially supporting her sister through college
- By the time her sister was about to graduate, the boyfriend had either given up or had a change of heart
- He started dating other women โ even before the official breakup, during the relationship's decline
- After the breakup he begged her to come back, but she refused because the cheating destroyed her trust
- She defines cheating broadly: not just physical sex, but emotional cheating, messaging, mental infidelity
Her tolerance policy for mistakes โ
- She told her long-term exes: "You can make 30 mistakes a day, as long as it's not the same mistake twice"
- If a partner repeats the same mistake knowing it hurts her, that's a deliberate choice and she's done
How she meets men โ
- Mostly through mutual friends โ weddings, reunions, social gatherings where a friend of a friend shows interest
- She tried Tinder but found most men there only wanted hookups, not relationships
- Pea notes that Tinder in the Philippines is weirdly used as a legitimate dating app by some people, unlike in the West where it's primarily for hookups โ but agrees most users still want casual encounters
- Cheesy tried Bumble, matched with guys who eventually moved conversations to WhatsApp or Viber
- She always asks upfront "What are you looking for?" and calls out profile contradictions (listing both "long-term" and "hookups")
- She found that some men would initially claim to want something serious, then revert to their "original color" โ calling them "chameleons"
FilipinoCupid experience โ
- She used it for a couple of years and met/dated several guys
- Most didn't want relationships โ they wanted a travel buddy or tour guide
- She always declined: "I'm looking for a boyfriend"
- One exception: a guy messaged her on his last week in the Philippines asking to hang out; she initially refused but was bored one day and agreed to meet for drinks in Dumaguete
- They had unexpected chemistry โ traveled together to lakes and waterfalls, and a genuine connection developed
- The transcript cuts off before the conclusion of this story