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MARRYING A FILIPINA BAR GIRL - Can It Work?

πŸ“… 2023-04-07⏱ 15:09
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Pea answers three viewer emails in this Mailbag Friday edition, each one illustrating a different tier of risk foreign men face when pursuing Filipinas. She dissects the Chinese Nanny scam step by step, explains why a 29-year-old woman's curfew is actually a bigger red flag than it sounds, and offers a surprisingly nuanced take on marrying a former bar girl β€” distinguishing Filipino bar work from Western sex work while still urging caution.

Email #1: "Long Dog Dong" from San Francisco β€” the Chinese Nanny scam ​

  • A man created an account on a Filipina dating site and started chatting with a woman claiming to be a nanny working in China
  • They chatted daily for months and "fell for each other" β€” but he's never seen her beyond her dating profile photos
  • When he asked for video chat, she said her employers took her smartphone away and replaced it with a simple phone that can't do video
  • Her contract is supposedly ending soon and she wants to visit him in the U.S.
  • She went to a "visa agency" in China that claimed they could get her a tourist visa and just send it when approved
  • They asked for money for: the agency fee, visa application, medical exam, fingerprinting, and airfare β€” totaling $2,800 which he transferred to a bank in Hong Kong
  • Now they're asking him to prove he can support her during her stay and want his personal banking details β€” that's when he finally noticed "red flags"
  • Pea's reaction: "That's when you started seeing red flags?!" β€” she's been warning about this for 3 years
  • Pea's postmortem of the scam:
    • The claim she couldn't video chat is suspicious β€” even if Chinese employers are notoriously difficult, she should be able to find a way to face-to-face chat with the man she supposedly loves
    • Getting a U.S. tourist visa is hard enough normally, but for a single Filipina in a foreign country who's never met the man she's visiting, it's "virtually impossible"
    • A visa company can't just "get the visa and send it to you" β€” the U.S. requires an in-person interview at an embassy
    • No medical exam is required for a tourist visa
    • Fingerprinting is done for free at the embassy
    • You don't buy plane tickets until after visa approval
    • He may not even be talking to a Filipina β€” could be someone in Nigeria using ChatGPT to "tell you exactly what you want to hear"
  • Pea's advice: if you're interested, tell her to go home after her contract ends and take a short trip to the Philippines to meet her and her family in person
  • She notes this is the second email she's received that same week about the exact same scam

Email #2: Brian G β€” the 29-year-old with a curfew ​

  • Brian has been in the Philippines for almost a year and met a beautiful Filipina selling street food in Northern Mindanao
  • He bought food, flirted, and asked her on a date β€” she was flattered but said to let her think about it and ask again the next day
  • When he returned the next morning, she said she could go out but he'd have to meet her parents first and she has a 10:00 p.m. curfew β€” despite being 29 years old
  • They exchanged numbers and he left, but now he's having second thoughts
  • Pea's analysis:
    • The delayed answer isn't unusual β€” Filipinas sometimes don't say yes right away to make sure you'll make the effort to try again, or she may have needed to ask her parents' permission (Pea's guess)
    • The 10 p.m. curfew is extreme for her age but "not impossible" β€” some very conservative families operate this way
    • Pea believes she genuinely wants to go out with him
    • But the bigger concern: families like that are "stuck together like glue" and this goes beyond the normal "marry the family" dynamic
    • Expect constant family interference: how late she's allowed to talk on the phone, where he's allowed to take her
    • If they have children, her parents are "almost guaranteed to meddle" β€” telling them how to raise the kids, what religion they should be
    • The fact that she's 29 and still completely under parental control should make him wonder about their future
    • Don't expect to waltz in and take her away from her parents β€” "Ain't going to happen. This kind of control β€” call it brainwashing if you like β€” lasts forever"
    • Despite the attraction, he needs to think about the long run

Email #3: David L from Green Bay, Wisconsin β€” marrying a bar girl ​

  • David has been communicating with a woman in Pampanga for about a year
  • Everything was going well with no red flags, except she was vague about her employment
  • She doesn't live near her family, so he knew she worked somewhere but she kept giving "half answers"
  • Eventually she started crying and admitted she's a bar girl in Angeles City
  • He almost broke things off, but she pleaded with him to have faith in her
  • He told her she'd have to quit β€” he bought her a laptop so she could become an online virtual assistant
  • He's supporting her living expenses during the transition (acknowledges Pea says never send money)
  • Plans to retire in the Philippines in 7 months and marry her β€” says his mind is made up "no matter what anyone says"
  • He actually didn't ask for advice β€” he asked if Pea would interview them after they get married
  • Pea's response β€” surprisingly nuanced:
    • She'd be happy to interview them, but suggests waiting until they've been married a year or two "just to be sure you made it past the honeymoon"
    • Important distinction about Filipino bar girls vs. Western escorts: in the West, sex work is usually related to drug addiction, but in the Philippines it's usually about financial desperation
    • Sometimes the girl's own parents pressure her into bar work if the family is very poor β€” "horrible, I know, but I'm just telling it like it is"
    • Not every bar girl is a "misunderstood angel," but sometimes they're average everyday women when they first start out
    • One point slightly in the woman's favor: she admitted she was a bar girl, even though it took a while β€” for a Filipina to admit something like that is "actually pretty darn incredible" given the culture of hiding the truth
    • However, Pea doesn't recommend it: the risk of problems is much greater because of her high body count β€” she might have problems bonding with a man, could have trust issues, diseases, and an unhealthy view of men
    • Since his mind is made up, Pea asks him to at least reconsider the rush to marry β€” "She's lucky to have someone like you, someone to give her a chance, and trust me, she'll wait"

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