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Ejected From The Philippines - Blacklisted Without Knowing It!

πŸ“… 2024-07-19⏱ 24:05
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Pea brings back Jr. Coco from JRC Visa Consultancy for a deep dive into tourist visa extensions, exit clearance requirements, blacklisting, the myth of foreigner citizenship, and common immigration mistakes that can get you barred from re-entering the Philippines. The episode is packed with specific procedural details and cautionary stories about how foreigners unwittingly get themselves into immigration trouble.

Tourist visa extension changes ​

  • Foreigners from the 159 countries covered under EO 408 can stay in the Philippines for up to 36 months (3 years) total on a tourist visa
  • Initial visa upon arrival: 30 days
  • Extensions are currently available in 1-2 month increments, requiring visits to the Bureau of Immigration every two months
  • The previously available 6-month extension has been temporarily suspended β€” it has NOT been permanently revoked, but it's not available right now
  • The Bureau of Immigration is working on an online extension system, though it still has glitches
  • Jr.'s company exists specifically to handle the hassle of these frequent immigration office visits for clients

Exit clearance β€” what it is and when you need it ​

  • Required for tourists who have stayed in the Philippines for more than 6 months
  • Purpose: the government checks whether the foreigner has any derogatory records (legal issues, unpaid debts, complaints) before allowing them to leave
  • Pea addresses a persistent rumor among her viewers: some believe a new rule requires exit clearance even for stays as short as 30 days β€” Jr. confirms this is completely false; nothing has changed
  • Exit clearance can only be processed at Bureau of Immigration district offices or the main office in Manila β€” not all immigration offices can issue them
  • Can sometimes be obtained at the airport, but this is risky β€” the airport office may not be open, and you could miss your flight
  • Jr. recommends processing exit clearance 30 days before your departure flight
  • Exception: foreigners married to Filipinas with a 13A visa do NOT need exit clearance
  • SRRV (retirement visa) holders also don't need exit clearance

How you can get blacklisted without knowing it ​

  • Case 1 β€” Being rude to immigration officers at departure: A foreigner was rude to a Bureau of Immigration officer while leaving the country. He was tagged as "unwanted and undesirable" β€” a very serious classification. He only discovered the blacklisting when he tried to re-enter the Philippines and was denied entry at the airport
  • The foreigner had no idea the blacklisting had happened β€” he wasn't notified, wasn't told at departure; he only found out upon attempted re-entry
  • "Unwanted and undesirable" is grounds heavy enough for a blacklist order, and lifting it takes 1-5 years depending on the severity
  • Pea pushes back on how subjective "rude" is β€” what if someone is just tired from a flight, or rushing to catch a connection? Jr. acknowledges the gray area but says foreigners need to compose themselves and be nice regardless
  • Case 2 β€” Being indigent: A foreigner was deemed to not have enough money and was sent back to their country, then discovered they were blacklisted when they tried to return

The absurd process of lifting a blacklist ​

  • After the waiting period (1-5 years), the first step is to send a formal apology letter to the specific immigration officer who filed the complaint
  • If that officer refuses to accept the apology, the lifting process cannot proceed β€” full stop
  • Pea is incredulous: "What is this, kindergarten?"
  • If the original officer has retired, died, or left the Bureau, the apology may go to next of kin or the officer's supervisor at that airport β€” Jr. acknowledges this is somewhat absurd
  • The officer will remember because there are records, even years later

Dismissed court cases don't automatically clear your immigration record ​

  • A foreigner had a legal case filed against him in the Philippines that was later dismissed by the courts
  • For a year afterward, he traveled in and out of the Philippines with no problems
  • However, the original case had been reported to the Bureau of Immigration, and the dismissal was never relayed to them β€” the information flow between courts and immigration is slow or nonexistent
  • He eventually hit problems because the Bureau still showed an active record
  • Solution: Jr.'s team presented the dismissal order directly to the Bureau of Immigration to clear the record
  • Jr.'s strong recommendation: do a derogatory check on your immigration record every 6 months to a year, because someone could file a complaint against you without your knowledge
  • Immigration complaints can be filed directly with the Bureau of Immigration β€” you don't need a police record for someone to cause you immigration problems
  • Derogatory checks can only be done in person at the Manila office (or through a service like Jr.'s)

Filipino citizenship is essentially impossible for foreigners ​

  • Naturalization of foreigners is not currently open β€” the Philippines has 118 million people on a small landmass and isn't looking to add more
  • To naturalize, a foreigner's case would have to go through Congress β€” it's reserved for people who add extraordinary value to the country
  • The foreigner would also have to renounce their existing citizenship, which most Westerners won't do
  • Dual citizenship is available for Filipinos who married foreigners and obtained foreign citizenship β€” they can keep both
  • For foreigners married to Filipinas, the 13A permanent residency visa is the best available option β€” not citizenship
  • Pea jokes: "Good thing I'm already Filipino by blood because the government would really hate me" given the critical content she produces

Working on a tourist visa β€” even for free β€” is illegal ​

  • Jr. shares a case where a foreigner went to jail simply for helping a friend manage something β€” unpaid, volunteer work
  • If you're seen working at a Filipino business (example: a foreign chef cooking in a restaurant), you can be tagged for working without a permit, regardless of whether you're being paid
  • If someone complains, there's a high probability of enforcement action
  • The gray area: what about someone employed by a US company but physically working from the Philippines on a tourist visa? Jr. says this hasn't been definitively resolved yet β€” "as long as you're not working for a Filipino company" seems to be the general interpretation, but it's legally untested

Pea's commentary on Filipino critics ​

  • She addresses Filipino viewers who accuse her of being "too negative" or anti-Philippines
  • References backlash from a previous video about poverty: commenters said "we won't be rich if we're talking about that"
  • Her response: "I love my country, I want us to progress, but the first step is to acknowledge that there is a problem β€” and it is us"
  • She calls out voting for "unworthy people" in government as part of the problem
  • Jr. praises her for building credibility with foreign viewers by providing factual, honest information

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